tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post110982614912423916..comments2024-03-11T05:22:43.871-07:00Comments on The Caveman's Wine Blog: cavemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01524518542395367295noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-76109479299969293802009-09-10T11:55:23.413-07:002009-09-10T11:55:23.413-07:00Re: Yvon Metras - Savio Soares Selections will be...Re: Yvon Metras - Savio Soares Selections will be bringing this wine in to NY State in Oct/Nov. VERY excited.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05613934434073705762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1111172904722323262005-03-18T11:08:00.000-08:002005-03-18T11:08:00.000-08:00William,
I too found Yvon Metras' Fleurie to be a...William,<br /><br />I too found Yvon Metras' Fleurie to be an amazing wine. I bought many bottles several years back from Kermit Lynch's shop. In subsequent years he no longer carried it though. Turns out Yvon Metras no longer imports to the US, apparently because it is too much of a hassle. WHAT A SHAME!! Anyone out there no how to get it? <br /><br />-RudiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109957360698930992005-03-04T09:29:00.000-08:002005-03-04T09:29:00.000-08:00I'm not tryng to be flippant. I've only been think...I'm not tryng to be flippant. I've only been thinking about this lately and I'm curious what others think.<br /><br />Question:<br />Why is a "terroir"-driven wine better than a wine that is "style-driven" by the winemaker?Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666030273896376610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109953527291790212005-03-04T08:25:00.000-08:002005-03-04T08:25:00.000-08:00Now THAT is something I agree with 100% and can ge...Now THAT is something I agree with 100% and can get behind. I guess I read your original post incorrectly. As you (and Tom) mention, the term "terroir" is a moving target!<br /><br />The way I usually talk about this topic is this:<br /><br />Some winemakers get caught up in their own "stardom" and fuck with the grapes to the point of making themselves the star of the wine...instead of the grapes. Meanwhile, the real superstar winemakers, for my money, are the ones that are true to the fruit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109909721972330622005-03-03T20:15:00.000-08:002005-03-03T20:15:00.000-08:00Hey Lenn,
Terroir, as we see from Tom at fermentat...Hey Lenn,<br />Terroir, as we see from Tom at fermentations is rather loosely defined, and thus can mean alot of things to alot of people. With respect to the nature gang, it is more about respecting the terroir in lieu of setting out to make a terroir wine. Ultimately if one follows the natural inclination of said grapes, at said time, at said place, and you don't fuck with it by adding designer yeasts or other aromats, then you can't help but have a terroir wine, or as they refer to the result.. authentic wine. For me, that makes sense and I guess what i meant by terroir driven.<br />Billcavemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01524518542395367295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109875255305607132005-03-03T10:40:00.000-08:002005-03-03T10:40:00.000-08:00Great post, Bill, as always.
Reading your comment...Great post, Bill, as always.<br /><br />Reading your comment, something struck me.<br /><br />"I think all wine should be terroir driven."<br /><br />I'm not saying that I don't agree, I think I do. But, I don't think that will EVER EVER EVER EVER happen. I would guess that 95% (at least) of all wine drinkers could care less about terroir. <br /><br />Not to ALWAYS come back to New York wines (sorry if you're sick of hearing about them) but there are very few winemakers that really focus on terroir...of course some would argue that terroir doesn't develop over night...and with a wine region that is about my age..maybe that's limiting.<br /><br />A couple weekends ago, I did have what I would consider a VERY VERY good Chardonnay (and I'm not always a fan) that is made with terroir in mind...with no added yeast. Of course, they price it beyond what they should...but because it's somewhat of a gimmick...they get the money for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109874237213344952005-03-03T10:23:00.000-08:002005-03-03T10:23:00.000-08:00Thanks again for the reference on your site Beau.....Thanks again for the reference on your site Beau... i think all wine should be terroir-driven, as consumers we just have to find those that we can appreciate, and i guess try and figure out why others we don't.<br /><br />Noah, thanks for the props.. I agree, my appreciation for wine changed a couple of years back with my first bottle of Yvon Metras' Fleurie. I would love to pick up some of Kermit's wines though our Canadian booze laws make it very difficult to do so. By the way, I dig Huet's Vouvray as much as you did.cavemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01524518542395367295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6706490.post-1109865815671266572005-03-03T08:03:00.000-08:002005-03-03T08:03:00.000-08:00Great post Bill. More elegant and to the point th...Great post Bill. More elegant and to the point than mine. I too find that, while I may not love every terroir-driven wine I taste, at least my interest is piqued about the winemaker and the region/area.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />beauAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com